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2008 C4GP 1.6hdi 110 - Can a dying/low battery cause odd issues and false faults warnings?

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Hi all,
I've searched my problem, and I do see some answers to it but the solution/remedies are varied, so I wanted to ask to try and clarify;
Can a dying/low battery cause odd issues and false fault warnings, that don't seem related?

To me if a battery is dying or dead nothing works, I seem to be getting weird things happening.

I own a 2008 C4GP 1.6hdi 110 since 2012, on Friday it failed to start and numerous faults came up all at the same time that haven't come up before, it was stuck at a friend's house.

Problems and what I've done so far:
1. Will not start, like no power going to the starting motor when you turn the key. There is power going to interior lights, dash and ignition lights, they look normal brightness.

2. Economy Mode Activated.

3. Swapped the brake pedal switch in the passenger footwell with a spare one I had. I've read these things can cause wars, so decided to start there. No joy car wouldn't start.

4. Got a lend of a Garage diagnostic machine, and I found list as long as my arm of intermittent faults, managed to clear them all.

5. With ignition on, Reverse lights stuck on, but not in reverse.

6. With ignition on, Brake lights stuck on, but pedal not depressed.

7. Tested the battery and output is 6-7V, so knowing it is too low and I've never put a battery in it in 6+ years, figured it was time to put another one in. When I tested the volts when I took the battery out, it read 12V!? Something must be draining the battery when hooked up? Certainly not the starting motor!

8. Installed another strong battery I had, which read 12V.

9. After locking and unlocking the door manually with the key as the fob battery was now completely dead, and after several attempts I managed to get the car to start. Reverse light turned off but the brake lights were stuck on(is the switch I put in faulty? Is the original one faulty? or is this a low battery issue?)

10. It wouldn't go into automatic with the selector in the A position, it went into manual itself, I assume this is limp home mode? Using the paddles, I drove the car home up to 3rd gear only and at 50kph.

11. As I drove new ABS, ESP, Auto/Handbrake, Gearbox warnings came up.

12. Parked the car on my drive, turned it off and tried to start again and it wouldn't.

13. Today I bought a new fob battery, locked the car and unlocked it in the hope I wasn't having immobiliser issues. I then turned it over, power went to the starting motor but it only clicked several times, the battery I had put in the night before was now drained, brake lights still stuck on(only with ignition on), sake, deep breaths!

14. I have the battery on charge over night, tomorrow is a new day!

Sorry for the log description, I tried to cover all aspects.

Any advice and or similar experiences welcomed.

Please Help - Grand C4 Picasso C4 Panoramic Sunroof Wont Open

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please can someone help, we have a Picasso Grand C4 2013 - it has a panoramic sunroof that slides open. this has not been working now for the past few months.

i am pulling my hair out, i have checked both fuse panels under the glove box area and checked fuse no F5 it is fine but i have replaced it anyway and it is still dead. i dont think this fuse is the issue as the electric windows also served by this fuse still work

i have spent hours on this and cannot figure it out and there is nothing in the hand book that helps ?

What's that Whiff?

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Gotta 61 reg 5 door C4 1.6 diesel hatchback with 97k on the clock

There is a slight fuel fume sort of whiff made worse by using the fan on hot/warm.

I have changed the cabin filter

Had a problem with previous C4 which was the Injector leakoff pipe (apparently) squirting diesel around the engine bay BUT it all looks dry on current car.

Any ideas as to what's that whiff will be appreciated folks . . . .


Winter radiator cover

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I've owned my 2008 Grand Picasso since 2010 and, because of short journeys, used to regularly suffer limp mode and then have to do the foot down thing for 20 mins to burn the residue off in the DPF . Since I fitted the cover in 2013 I've had no further Limp mode problems.I never take the cover off and have left it on now for many longer journeys.I wonder if others have noticed the same?

Right Connections Towing module for 2008 Grand Picasso

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In 2012 I bought a Right Connections towing kit for my 2008 Grand Picasso. In Sept. 2018 the trailer module stopped working because somehow water had damaged it. All the tow bar suppliers , including Right Connections, could offer were complete new canbus towing kits. I contacted Jaeger in Germany who not only told me the number of another, upgraded module that would fit but also arranged for me to buy it through their UK dealer Brink in Nuneaton.The old module number was 52504504C. The new module's number is 52509408. Both Jaeger and ConWys modules are made by Mkem. Hope this info helps someone on here.

Wheel alignment after. Change in front shocks

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Hello, would like to know if we need a wheel alignment after changing front shocks? I have to change shocks in few months ,but need to replace tyres soon
So wanted to get tyre change and alignment/ balancing first and then change of shock absorbers later.

A couple of C4 hatch parts for sale.

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As I no longer have my 2005 c4 hatch, I have a couple of items that I no longer need. The are used but I can honestly say that I have never fitted them to the car, they have both been in the shed for a couple of years.
The first item is the winter grill, bought from another C4 member years ago and never used. The second item is the high level (third) brake light, again never fitted.
I am open to sensible offers, so will leave them on here for a couple of weeks before they go on Ebay.

Citroen C4 picasso (gearbox faulty)

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Hello all!

I'm having an issue with my 2008 C4 grand picasso EGS that i just can't seem to fix.

The issue i'm having is this car has a fault code in the gearbox P1718 - 'gear lever signal fault' this fault code began as an intermittent fault code, however has manifested into a permanent fault code. every time the message on the dash appeared the gear selector would get confused and wouldn't change gear, this would happen once every 2 weeks, however a quick key on and off would normally solve the issue. Upon the initial scan with autel there was various fault codes in various ecu's these are:

C1178 - 'power steering ECU internal fault'
u1213 - 'fault in the information transmitted by the ABS/ESP or FSE ecu'
p1718 - 'gear lever signal fault'
p0868 - 'oil pressure defect fault'
f5ff - 'unexpected reinitialization fault coming from the bsi'

I managed to clear all of these codes, the only one that came back was the p1718 gear lever signal fault.

This morning i've stripped the scuttle, wipers, battery tray ect to gain access to the wiring in order to inspect. Now i don't know if it's coincidence but upon forming a wiggle test on the wiring the p1718 fault code has now become permanent and will not clear, however all the wiring from what I can see looks in tact and un damaged.

Hopefully someone can shed some advise on how to tackle this issue before i start spening money on a actuator unit.

Kind regards,
Dave.

front sidelights not working

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hi everyone a few days ago for no apparent reason my front sidelights are not coming on, all other lights are working normally can anyone throw any light on this subject

C5 and the future of C4 ?

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Once upon a time .... the C4 Pic/Grand Pic and the Peugeot 3008/5008 were spiritually similar. Then the Peugeots went all chunky and SUV'ish except for no 4WD.

Now Citroen has launched the C5 aircross. Looking at the specs, the size, drive train and pricing is very close to the C4 Pic, and it even has separate rears seats. So a Peugeot 3008 with a bit more load space flexibility.

If I was up for spending almost £30k on a new car, its more likely to be the C5 Aircross than a C4 Pic, but in the real world I wouldn't want to spend anything like that.

Which makes me think. Model numbers are more about marketing than floorpans these days - the C4 Cactus was really a bulky C3 when it appeared and could easily be re-branded just as "the Citroen Cactus" The C5 Aircross and the 7 seater version which will surely follow drains the life and purpose from the C4 Pic range and suddenly C4 is no more.

C2 and C6 have gone, C5 went but has returned, C1-C3-C5 plus oddites like Cactus Berlingo perhaps?


Buy now while stocks last???? Run-out bargains due soon? Forum renamed C4ownersand afewotherthingsabitlikeC4s.org......Who knows.

Cookies from the site

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Have forsaken my beloved Dell with win 7 to an MSI running win 10 mainly so I can fly planes on my flight sim. Like win7 I use CC cleaner to clean the computer of rubbish but it also gives me the option to save cookies to obviate the need to relog into sites. For some reason, though I am accepting cookies from this site they are not showing in CC cleaner so I am unable to save them. Is there a solution as logging in each time then having to confirm I am a human (a remnant from when Dave was a boy). I must log into 20 sites each day and this is the only site that asks this question. Is it not time this site moved into the 21st century?

Heater/Ac high pitched sound

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Hi

I have a c4 grand picasso 1.6 hdi egs

Ive been getting a high pitched squeek noise from the drivers sides heating air vent? Its the climate control type vent if that makes a difference? It only happens when the heater or ac is on and then only at low speeds or auto, if blowing at high speed no noise, so i can only assume something is stuck in there or needs greasing and probably should change the pollen filter although its a real pain to access in these.

How do i remove the right drivers side vent to have a look at the fan and see if there is anything stuck there, doesnt appear to be any screws or anything?

Thanks

Reversing Sensors

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I have recently bought a 2014 C4 Coupe 1.6 hdi and 1 am very pleased with it. The only draw back is that it
is not fitted with reversing sensors. I have been given a set which I would like to install. I have searched several websites and cannot find a thread covering this particular year / model. I have read that on some earlier models the power supply should not be taken from the reversing light supply but cannot find if it is ok to do that on this particular model.
I am happy to install the sensors but would leave the connection to an auto electrician. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Many thanks

Radio Change

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Car is C4 Grand Picasso VTR+ HDI S-A. YA61FLR VIN VF7UA9HR8BJ720123.

Original radio started to play up, would go into silent mode for anything from 3 mins to 3 weeks. Had radio checked by a radio workshop and the diagnosed a faulty chip and a repair cost of £260+. Bought a replacement radio from e-bay and had it VIN coded for the car, now the radio works fine and reacts to the steering wheel controls.

Now the problem, it does not work the bluetooth, aux, usb or reverse sensors!!!
I am assured that the radio has the same codes as the old one, the radio has to be coded to work with add ons. It connects to my phone (Samsung Note 4) dials out etc but no sound through the radio........

Anyone have any ideas? software updates or anything

Assistance required.

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Good afternoon fellow Picasso owners. I’m having issues with the usual handbrake, esp/abs and all related faults. Basically so far I’ve, changed the brake switch, abs sensors, removed the battery and checked the wires behind it, removed, cleaned and replaced the egr valve and finally tried a replacement fuse panel and still have the issues. At the moment I’m at a dead end but as the car is currently off the road with no MOT, I was wondering if anybody in the gosport/ Portsmouth area is available to help me diagnose the fault, I haven’t got lexia but I do have a cheap code reader, so I can’t check the error codes properly. I did have it checked 12 months ago but the garage who did it couldn’t pin point the cause.

If someone could help it would be greatly appreciated



The following codes are what was recorded by the garage

P1351 Preheating relay circuit stuck open
P0490 EGR Electro valve opening too small
P1459 Electric EGR Valve stuck open
P0409 EGR Electro Valve stuck open during programming
P0401 EGR Regulation Air flow greater than setting

U1208 no communications with engine management ECU value received incorrect

0000 Engine fuse box fault ECU not communicating on the CAN
0998 Engine fuse box headlamp wash fault short to earth

B2BC6 Rear left exterior sensor fault

C4 sx hdi automatic gearbox fault

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Hi All
After some advice! I have a 56 plate c4 SX HDI auto. Been told a support bearing in the gearbox is loose, not worth getting fixed due to cost, car has been fine for about a year, apart from the noise from the bearing. Past few weeks its been a bit juddery on take off, smooth after

Today its beeped and flashed up gearbox fault and wont select a gear! There was no bangs from an exploding gearbox.

Any ideas of any cheap fixes, thanks in advance
tazmanvip@hotmail.com

£50 Discount on ByMiles.co.uk low mileage Car Insurer

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Discount Code - 'DE63WLK' will get you a £50 credit added to your account on your insurance!!


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If you drive less than 7000 miles/year, this insurer may be the best for you.

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Traditional insurance doesn’t make sense if you don’t drive much. With us, a fixed annual cost covers your car while it’s parked, then you just pay for the miles you drive each month.

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Download their app or use their online dashboard to automatically see the cost of your journeys and access handy driving tools and reminders.

This also works as a tracker so you can locate you vehicle using the app if the vehicle is lost or stolen.
It can also help breakdown companies find your exact location.

Error code 099c, u1208, 0000. Please help

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Hello all, I am having issues with my C4GP 1.6HDi (2007) and would be so very grateful for any help you can give.

When driving at any speed, even with a constant throttle position, you can hear the waste-gate chattering quite regularly and it is very down on power because of this. Going up inclines it is hard to get over 40 which is a pain on a 60 road! It will keep dropping down to 3rd for example and find a little power band and get to 45 and then it will struggle again and drop to 3rd and do it again.

Sometimes, quite frequently actually, I will get a handbrake faulty followed by esp, abs warnings etc. The handbrake wont work automatically after this but works fine manually.

Cruise control works fine until something triggers it to turn off and then it won't set a speed until the car is restarted.

I have replaced the egr valve for a brand new one. I have just put a brand new turbo on too as the shaft broke - probably due to the constant battering the car needs just to get upto speed! I also replaced the brake sensor switch a few months ago which fixed the habdbrake/abs/esp fault for a while but it came back.

I borrowed a friends Snapon code reader and got ...

0000 Engine fusebox fault: ecu not communicating on the CAN - not characterized - local.

U1208 no communications with engine management ecu value received incorrect.

099c engine fuse box: fuel pump fault - not characterized - local.

I would just like to add that the car starts perfectly and runs fine (apart from the power problem) and it doesn't stall.

I would greatly appreciate any help on this as I have spent a fortune on the car lately and feel like i'm getting nowhere! Turbo, egr valve, dual mass flywheel and clutch all at once 😭

Many many thanks in advance

Citroen C4 Loeb gearbox code?

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Good evening, I've been after a C4 coupe for about 6 months now and missed out on a couple. However I've just got a black Loeb number 50, but it's diff has completely exploded taking out most the gearbox. I've had a quick scrub on the side to see if I can find the code but it's not where I thought it was. I don't suppose anyone knows? It's a 2007 I'm pretty sure I know what it is but wanted to be 100%.

Grand C4 Picasso 2007 auto gearbox - does it need a transmission fluid change?

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Hi,

I've recently bought a 2007 grand c4 picasso, 2.0l diesel vtr automatic and I've heard that it might be beneficial to change the transmission fluid. The gear changes aren't totally smooth and wondering if it'll actually make a difference? Mileage is 63000 so still pretty low.

Any experts have any advice?

Cheers.
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